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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Coffee 2:25 Wed Aug 31
Transfer windows - the current system stinks
There has to be a better alternative than now. It disproportionately benefits agents (a major scourge of football), interferes with managers, unsettles players, inflates prices and is generally unconducive to the good of the game.

Should these windows just be abandoned completely, should they be kept, or is there another, better alternative?

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Full Claret Jacket 7:44 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
It's great entertainment and helps immensely with money laundering.

icwhs 6:43 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
Should be shut before a ball is kicked in the new season

i.e first game Saturday 6th

Window should shut Thursday 4th 11pm so they can use them for the season

hacko 6:29 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
How about having an open season on players agents?

charleyfarley 4:14 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
Anything that gets Jim White off my tv, has to be a good thing

Alex V 3:33 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
I hope he goes today, but it would be interesting to see what Sakho would do with no chance of a move til January.

Private Dancer 3:32 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
Has your wife left you? Go out and have a beer, ffs.

Alex V 3:26 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
I'm sure agents work all the time. But I think it was Trevor Sinclair said in an interview that he always liked the way the window shuts and players ignore their agents and knuckle down because they simply can't move because of the rules.

BubblesCyprus 3:25 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
Thought for quite while on this but keep the system as is but closed before season starts?

Alex V 3:21 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
I don't think there's much problem with loans. I wouldn't want to move the dates because I think it suits us honestly. We get a little look at the team and time to respond to issues before the window closes.

Rossal 3:17 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
"The window should obviously close before the season starts"

Well we'd of been fucked then as we would of had a europa league squad built and all our youngsters stuck playing in the 21's when they are good enough to get first team football.

"clubs should have a limit on the amount of players allowed on loan"

How would teams develop players then ? And would the standard of the lower leagues drop with less players available from the prem on loan....

Coffee 3:16 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
Alex V 3:06 Wed Aug 31

Just moving the dates alone won't be a massive improvement, that has to be introduced in conjunction with other requirements. As Sven said, a limit to the number of players one club can own is one such requirement.

I'd be interested to know how many months of the year an agent really works. I imagine that your typical agent would be most busy sounding out players and clubs at the end of the season and early close season, then again towards the end of the window. Mid-summer window would be moderate negotiation, with the rest of the year spent on contracts, etc. Just a guess, of course. But you'd imagine that agents would be able to find a way to manipulate any transfer system or season.

Marston Hammer 3:12 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
Transfer windows are fine.

It's the loan system that's fucked - would only need to make a couple of changes though to make it much better

1) no loaning to clubs in the same division
2) put a maximum number on players per club out on loan at any one time (maybe exceptions for players under 21)

Sven Roeder 3:09 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
The window should obviously close before the season starts.
31st July is a decent date and no matches of any sort should happen before 1st Aug.

Also no club should be allowed to have more than 30 professionals over 18 under contract.

Alex V 3:06 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
i fail to see how it helps agents - it currently means they can't unsettle players as much or engineer transfers all season, only during the windows. I think in the modern era you'd probably have absolute chaos without the transfer windows - you'd have desperate clubs paying out fortunes for quick-fix players on month-to-month deals, it would be a nightmare for supporters to just keep up with it. And it would heavily suit those who pay the most.

I think there's a slight case for having the window shut before the season starts, but of course different leagues start at different times and you need some sort of uniformity across countries for it to work. I think it does suit a club like ours to be able to get a few examples of the team in action before the window closes. If you're a top club buying world class players that doesn't matter so much in theory.

mallard 3:04 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
The January window is the one for the teams in the relegation zone, start splashing out silly money in desperation

Rossal 3:00 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
Whats wrong with this one ?

Entertaining.....lots of comings and goings....not sure what the issue is

Sniper 2:54 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
It is a bizarre system, but it has one perk of stopping the big clubs buying their way out of trouble for 4 months. Without the window, Chelsea could have just gone wild in the aisles dale wonton style to fix their season but instead had to wait til January when it was too late

The drawback is smaller clubs can't save themselves for 4 months - look at us in 02/93, if brevett and Ferdinand had come in in October when Di canio and Kanpur were out it could well have saved us.

Swings and roundabouts but I think the old system of the door shutting in March was better - at least it didn't inflate prices so much

I agree as well that if you are to have this window, it should close before the season starts and perhaps teams could be allowed one emergency loan until January when it opens again (or else we'd have no strikers!!)

Trevor B 2:36 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
"There has to be a better alternative than now. It disproportionately benefits agents (a major scourge of football), interferes with managers, unsettles players, inflates prices and is generally unconducive to the good of the game."

I'd love to know of an alternative system that doesnt unsettle players or interfere with managers. surely the above is exactly what people used to say about the old system throughout the season.

Bungo 2:34 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
I think when you join a club it should be like joining an MC.

You get the tattoos. If/when you leave, you have to give them back.

i-Ron 2:32 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
The old way was better until 31st March

Now you have players and agents holding out until the last day

Fans have meltdowns too

Mart O 2:30 Wed Aug 31
Re: Transfer windows - the current system stinks
Exactly Buster. The real problem with it is its duration. Ridiculous that it's still going on at this stage of the season. Surely it's obvious that this is detrimental to the game.

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